MWEB: “This is the real deal”

March 18, 2010  |  Connectivity, Technology  |  Share  | 

MWEB announced uncapped ADSL services for South Africa on Thursday. This sparked a flurry of questions and was met with some skepticism from SA’s more wary internet users who have dealt with claims like these in the past. After chatting to Andre Joubert, MWEB’s GM of its business division, however, I get the feeling that MWEB intends to provide truly uncapped services.

“We don’t want to promise a service like this and then not deliver it – people would just hate us all over again if we did that,” says Joubert.

“This is the real deal,” he insists, adding that MWEB has done extensive testing on the offerings to ensure that customers will get what they sign up for.

Joubert said that the home packages, starting at R219/month for a 384kbps service and going up to R539 for 4Mbps, would be shaped. But there will be no other limits on the service. No day/night split, no soft-capping, none of that.

“The only thing I can’t tell you about is contention on our network, for competitive reasons,” he says.

“Also, on the home packages, your web, mail and other commonly used ports will be unshaped. Things like peer-to-peer will be shaped, depending on contention – if there is capacity available, those services will burst onto unshaped bandwidth,” he explains.

“But we are doing things differently from other companies that have tried it. We know what we’re doing and we have the scale to pull it off,” adds Joubert.

He says that the new packages would not be a loss-leader for MWEB.

“It makes business sense given our economies of scale,” explains Joubert.

He adds that it wouldn’t make much sense for MWEB to compromise its core services by subsidising lower prices. Competitors like Afrihost have done this, hoping to attract subscribers now and keep them around when the economies of scale improve, but Joubert largely pooh-poohs that strategy.

“It works for us without being subsidised,” he states, confirming that MWEB will make money from the service from day 1.

For business customers MWEB’s uncapped ADSL is completely unshaped and unhindered by restrictions, according to Joubert. For this you pay more – R499 for 384kbps up to R1999 for 4Mbps.

These prices exclude Telkom line-rental, however, but MWEB has also put together packages that include line and bandwidth.

These all-inclusive packages, including ADSL line rental and uncapped bandwidth, go for R349, R599 and R899 per month for line speeds of 384kbps, 512kbps and 4Mbps respectively, for shaped bandwidth. All-inclusive business (unshaped) packages will cost R629 for the 384kbps option, R999 for the 512kbps and R2 259 for the 4Mbps package.

There is simply no cheaper broadband connection currently available in SA – and very few networks who could beat it. Joubert says that MWEB is heavily utilising international bandwidth on the SEACOM cable for this offering, along with some bandwidth on Telkom’s SAT3 cable.

Joubert says that when other undersea cables such as Eassy and WACS come online, prices will be adjusted down again.

“This is just the beginning,” he agrees.

There is also a point to be made about local bandwidth – which it now more expensive than international bandwidth in South Africa thanks to incumbent network Telkom’s stranglehold on the ‘local loop’. ADSL line-rentals are also way too expensive, and bandwidth is steadily becoming cheaper than line-rentals – which is just ridiculous.

I’ll reserve final judgement on MWEB ADSL until I’ve tried it myself, but there is cause to be excited methinks.

 
  • Antonio

    Still wanna see some more responses from MWEB, since some of the Q&A I've read don't quite add up.

    However, I can still see myself using their uncapped service in the very near future since it's much more economical than my current setup.

    The best part is, it can only get cheaper :D

  • http://www.mwebbusiness.co.za/ Andre Joubert

    Antonio I think quite a lot of hype on Twitter around why this couldn't possibly be true from MWEB :) This is a great offering and consumers and businesses will not be disappointed. If you are a 800gig / month Torrent user then this is not the service for you. There is no way that we can build and scale the network to accommodate those users and offer this type of pricing! But for the average family or user you will never run foul of any Fair Use Policy.

  • Hennie

    If you don't have a Telkom line due to the fact that there is no infrastructure, then this deal means nothing. Why is there no similar offer on USB modems, which many of us in outlying areas have to use at great cost? This offer is again for those few who have access to infrastructure and the beast that is Telkom

  • E. Benade

    like the idea of uncapped but we live in a security complex with no access to a telkom line so can not use this service would like to but without the telkom line no go why not a modem that work without a telephone line for internet that is also cheap at the moment cost me a fortune for internet as no line of sight is available for other internet connections in our area

  • Werner

    Is there a “fair usage” cap on these packages?

  • jake174

    fair the question is for myself i use 120GB ? mostly normal browsing (a internet cafe ) ?

  • http://www.simon.co.za/ Simon

    Apparently MWEB considers 100GB as fair usage. I'm not sure if that's true – but it would be more than enough for me and would align to countries like the USA where fair usage is starting to approach the 150 to 200GB level.

  • http://www.wildaviation.com/ Charlieh

    Well just upgraded my long standing icon account to this package. The sales rep has said Mweb would love me to use 100gig a month (I currently use between 7 and 9 Gb per month) Dont know how I will get to 100 Gb monthly without using P2P

  • http://badentrepreneur.bundublog.com/ Marc Ashton

    This has got to be one of the most exciting (monumental??) weeks for internet in South Africa.

    This opens up huge opportunities for a number of sectors including entrepreneurship and education. Damn exciting stuff!

  • A. Ismail

    ok lets be clarify”
    I am curently on a 384 line with XDSL(or whichever service provider).
    If i switch to mweb uncapped:
    -I will get the same fast internet for surfing
    -I wil also get good download speeds when DOWNLOADING FROM WEBSITES such as CNET, Rapidshare (ie content uploaded to websites), attachments from emails etc.
    - shape will only apply to torrents, peer to peer
    is this correct??….

  • http://www.simon.co.za/ Simon

    Yeah, I think you've got it right. I've been testing the service for a few days and browsing, emails, http downloads and the like are all just as good, if not better, than what they would be with other service providers. p2p is slower, but spikes up depending on the time of day, etc. (from what I can tell).

    All in all I'd recommend the service – especially if you aren't reliant on p2p. But there are also other uncapped options popping up from Vox, Afrihost and others. At the moment MWEB seems to have the lead, however.

  • Albie

    Simon

    I seem to remember that Andre Joubert mentioned the use of 100 GB as fair usage in this interview with you the day you published it. Did you edit that comment out?

  • http://www.simon.co.za/ Simon

    Nope. I only found out about it later as per my comment above.

  • Albie

    I did read it in some interview or article. Somewhere else then.

  • http://www.synapticlight.com/ SynapticLight

    I am interesting in seeing how other providers respond – and if they don't how many people will move to MWEB. I was one of those lucky 1000 people who won a month of free Uncapped data – it certainly seems that MWEB is preparing those winners to move to MWEB after the month is up – I have to apply for an account to get the free month.

  • Gary

    You mentioned a couple of other providers on air who were also offering uncapped service. Please post them here too as I didn't get the chance to write them down

  • Mark

    so much for the uncapped ADSL from MWEB. I can only use the 4MB uncapped from them, because they decided to increase the price of the 10MB uncapped 4X!! Their 10MB SHAPED uncapped is R2000. I got an automatic upgrade from 4MB to 10MB on the line side from Telkom, however MWEB dropped my line back to 4MB and asks x4 the price…